Aristophanes Frogs ll.1018-1036
Cook, Jeanna / Aristophanes Frogs
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ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
καὶ δὴ χωρεῖ τουτὶ τὸ κακόν · κρανοποιῶν αὖ μ᾿ ἐπιτρίψει .
ΕΥΡΙΠΙΔΗΣ
καὶ τί σὺ δράσας οὕτως αὐτοὺς γενναίους ἐξεδίδαξας ;
ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
1020 Αἰσχύλε , λέξον , μηδ᾿ αὐθάδως σεμνυνόμενος χαλέπαινε .
ΑΙΣΧΥΛΟΣ
δρᾶμα ποιήσας Ἄρεως μεστόν .
ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
ποῖον ;
ΑΙΣΧΥΛΟΣ
τοὺς Ἕπτ᾿ ἐπὶ Θήβας ·
ὃ θεασάμενος πᾶς ἄν τις ἀνὴρ ἠράσθη δάιος εἶναι .
ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
τουτὶ μέν σοι κακὸν εἴργασται · Θηβαίους γὰρ πεποίηκας
ἀνδρειοτέρους εἰς τὸν πόλεμον · καὶ τούτου γ᾿ οὕνεκα τύπτου .
ΑΙΣΧΥΛΟΣ
1025ἀλλ᾿ ὑμῖν αὔτ᾿ ἐξῆν ἀσκεῖν , ἀλλ᾿ οὐκ ἐπὶ τοῦτ᾿ ἐτράπεσθε .
εἶτα διδάξας Πέρσας μετὰ τοῦτ᾿ ἐπιθυμεῖν ἐξεδίδαξα
νικᾶν ἀεὶ τοὺς ἀντιπάλους , κοσμήσας ἔργον ἄριστον .
ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
ἐχάρην γοῦν , ἡνίκ᾿ ἐπήκουσαν τοῦ Δαρείου τεθνεῶτος ,
ὁ χορὸς δ᾿ εὐθὺς τὼ χεῖρ᾿ ὡδὶ συγκρούσας εἶπεν · " ἰαυοῖ . "
ΑΙΣΧΥΛΟΣ
1030 ταῦτα γὰρ ἄνδρας χρὴ ποιητὰς ἀσκεῖν . σκέψαι γὰρ ἀπ᾿ ἀρχῆς
ὡς ὠφέλιμοι τῶν ποιητῶν οἱ γενναῖοι γεγένηνται .
Ὀρφεὺς μὲν γὰρ τελετάς θ᾿ ἡμῖν κατέδειξε φόνων τ᾿ ἀπέχεσθαι ,
Μουσαῖος δ᾿ ἐξακέσεις τε νόσων καὶ χρησμούς , Ἡσίοδος δὲ
γῆς ἐργασίας , καρπῶν ὥρας , ἀρότους · ὁ δὲ θεῖος Ὅμηρος
1035 ἀπὸ τοῦ τιμὴν καὶ κλέος ἔσχεν πλὴν τοῦδ᾿ , ὅτι χρήστ᾿ ἐδίδαξεν ,
τάξεις , ἀρετάς , ὁπλίσεις ἀνδρῶν ;
καὶ δὴ χωρεῖ τουτὶ τὸ κακόν · κρανοποιῶν αὖ μ᾿ ἐπιτρίψει .
ΕΥΡΙΠΙΔΗΣ
καὶ τί σὺ δράσας οὕτως αὐτοὺς γενναίους ἐξεδίδαξας ;
ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
1020 Αἰσχύλε , λέξον , μηδ᾿ αὐθάδως σεμνυνόμενος χαλέπαινε .
ΑΙΣΧΥΛΟΣ
δρᾶμα ποιήσας Ἄρεως μεστόν .
ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
ποῖον ;
ΑΙΣΧΥΛΟΣ
τοὺς Ἕπτ᾿ ἐπὶ Θήβας ·
ὃ θεασάμενος πᾶς ἄν τις ἀνὴρ ἠράσθη δάιος εἶναι .
ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
τουτὶ μέν σοι κακὸν εἴργασται · Θηβαίους γὰρ πεποίηκας
ἀνδρειοτέρους εἰς τὸν πόλεμον · καὶ τούτου γ᾿ οὕνεκα τύπτου .
ΑΙΣΧΥΛΟΣ
1025ἀλλ᾿ ὑμῖν αὔτ᾿ ἐξῆν ἀσκεῖν , ἀλλ᾿ οὐκ ἐπὶ τοῦτ᾿ ἐτράπεσθε .
εἶτα διδάξας Πέρσας μετὰ τοῦτ᾿ ἐπιθυμεῖν ἐξεδίδαξα
νικᾶν ἀεὶ τοὺς ἀντιπάλους , κοσμήσας ἔργον ἄριστον .
ΔΙΟΝΥΣΟΣ
ἐχάρην γοῦν , ἡνίκ᾿ ἐπήκουσαν τοῦ Δαρείου τεθνεῶτος ,
ὁ χορὸς δ᾿ εὐθὺς τὼ χεῖρ᾿ ὡδὶ συγκρούσας εἶπεν · " ἰαυοῖ . "
ΑΙΣΧΥΛΟΣ
1030 ταῦτα γὰρ ἄνδρας χρὴ ποιητὰς ἀσκεῖν . σκέψαι γὰρ ἀπ᾿ ἀρχῆς
ὡς ὠφέλιμοι τῶν ποιητῶν οἱ γενναῖοι γεγένηνται .
Ὀρφεὺς μὲν γὰρ τελετάς θ᾿ ἡμῖν κατέδειξε φόνων τ᾿ ἀπέχεσθαι ,
Μουσαῖος δ᾿ ἐξακέσεις τε νόσων καὶ χρησμούς , Ἡσίοδος δὲ
γῆς ἐργασίας , καρπῶν ὥρας , ἀρότους · ὁ δὲ θεῖος Ὅμηρος
1035 ἀπὸ τοῦ τιμὴν καὶ κλέος ἔσχεν πλὴν τοῦδ᾿ , ὅτι χρήστ᾿ ἐδίδαξεν ,
τάξεις , ἀρετάς , ὁπλίσεις ἀνδρῶν ;
Dionysus
This is going from bad to worse : making helmets now—he’ll wear me out !
Euripides
And just how did you train them to be so noble ?
Dionysus
Speak up , Aeschylus , and don’t be willfully prideful and difficult .
Aeschylus
By composing a play chock-full of Ares .
Dionysus
Namely ?
Aeschylus
My Seven Against Thebes ; every single man who watched it was hot to be warlike .
Dionysus
Well , that was an evil accomplishment , because you’ve made the Thebans more valiant in battle , and you deserve a beating for it .
Aeschylus
No , you could all have had the same training , but you didn’t go in that direction . Thereafter I produced my Persians , which taught them to yearn always to defeat the enemy , and thus I adorned an excellent achievement .
Dionysus
I certainly enjoyed it when they listened to the dead Darius , and right away the chorus clapped their hands together like this and cried " aiee ! "
Aeschylus
That’s the sort of thing that poets should practice . Just consider how beneficial the noble poets have been from the earliest times . Orpheus revealed mystic rites to us , and taught us to abstain from killings ; Musaeus instructed us on oracles and cures for diseases ; Hesiod on agriculture , the seasons for crops , and ploughing . And where did the godlike Homer get respect and renown if not by giving good instruction in the tactics , virtues , and weaponry of men ?
This is going from bad to worse : making helmets now—he’ll wear me out !
Euripides
And just how did you train them to be so noble ?
Dionysus
Speak up , Aeschylus , and don’t be willfully prideful and difficult .
Aeschylus
By composing a play chock-full of Ares .
Dionysus
Namely ?
Aeschylus
My Seven Against Thebes ; every single man who watched it was hot to be warlike .
Dionysus
Well , that was an evil accomplishment , because you’ve made the Thebans more valiant in battle , and you deserve a beating for it .
Aeschylus
No , you could all have had the same training , but you didn’t go in that direction . Thereafter I produced my Persians , which taught them to yearn always to defeat the enemy , and thus I adorned an excellent achievement .
Dionysus
I certainly enjoyed it when they listened to the dead Darius , and right away the chorus clapped their hands together like this and cried " aiee ! "
Aeschylus
That’s the sort of thing that poets should practice . Just consider how beneficial the noble poets have been from the earliest times . Orpheus revealed mystic rites to us , and taught us to abstain from killings ; Musaeus instructed us on oracles and cures for diseases ; Hesiod on agriculture , the seasons for crops , and ploughing . And where did the godlike Homer get respect and renown if not by giving good instruction in the tactics , virtues , and weaponry of men ?